It's been a long war and Syria's Deputy Foreign Minister looks like he's lived every minute of it. Dr Faisal Mekdad looks more tired than at any time since the war began two years ago. But he remains defiant and confident.
He is, like many people here, furious at Israel's attack on the capital Damascus.
When I asked him how Syria will retaliate he smiles and asked me if I honestly expected him to reveal military secrets. But he made clear retaliation is what President Assad wants.
He was scathing too about the plans of Britain, France and it seems now the US to begin arming Syria's rebels.
He believes Britain and France now head the campaign to arm the rebels.
But there is a spring in the minister's step as well. Pro-government forces, he says, are making gains especially around Damascus.
So he may be tired. He may have aged in office, but this is a diplomat who is defiant and determined, it seems, to make Israel pay for its latest air attacks.