An environmentalist who claims that sheep are destroying the Lake District fells has been meeting the Cumbrian farmers, he says are to blame.
George Monbiot is well known nationally as an outspoken critic of farming practices but he agreed to meet farmers near Penrith to discuss what can be done to protect the landscape.
Fiona Marley-Paterson was there to see what happened.
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