"It's a very serious thing, you think well actually can we really afford to have the heating on all day long, no we can't, so you have to be selective about when you have it on , and sometimes it's well actually you need to feed the children so put an extra jumper on and manage.
It's kind of like that it's really difficult, and you think it's a bit strange in a society like ours you shouldn't be having to think actually basics like heating and food we've got to make a choice between them when we're both working in a western society"
"Just even in terms of shopping for the childrens' clothes it's kinda been out of the question a lot of the time so we just have to rely on people handing clothes down to us.
Household bills, everything;s going up, food costs we find really difficult with four children, we find it really difficult making ends meet at the end of the month"
Jonathan Girling speaking about the pressures on his family