Central Tonight took a straw poll on the economy today from the people who really know how British business is doing - the white-van man.
It coincided with the launch of a vehicle from one of the country's smallest and newest motor firms.
So we thought we'd ask the small one-man band operations who drive the UK economy if we're still in trouble. Here's our Business Correspondent, Mark Gough.
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Thousands from around the country went to the Black Country to take part in Tough Guy - a challenge with more than 250 obstacles.
Mainly dry overnight but very cold with temperatures dropping sharply as winds ease down giving a widespread frost.
It will be dry with clear spells across the region overnight.