Claire Tyler, a friend and former colleague of Mairead Philpott has taken to the stand today. The pair had known each other for seven years.
Miss Tyler told the court that Mrs Philpott "never had any of her own money".
Miss Tyler said a week after the fire in Derby, she overheard Mick Philpott having a phone conversation in which it was alleged he said "He's going to drop us in it, he's not got the story right".
Anthony Orchard for Mr Philpott suggested to Miss Tyler that she had no idea who the conversation was with or what it was about, to which Miss Tyler replied, 'No'.