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Frances Crook from the Howard League for Penal Reform, which campaigns for prisoner rights with a focus on rehabilitation, and Louise Bours UKIP's newly elected MEP for the North West debate the death penalty.
It's 50 years ago this week since the last murderers to be executed in Britain were hanged at jails in the North West.
Gwynne Evans and Peter Allen were hanged at the same time, at prisons in Manchester and Liverpool
The death penalty was suspended a year later. Their story forms part of tonight's ITV documentary Executed.
Frances Crook from the Howard League for Penal Reform says there is "no call" for a return to the death penalty.
The Howard League campaigns for a reform of the prison system, and fewer people in prisons.