It’s becoming a familiar complaint – English clubs failing in the Champions League. But for this to be debated now – in September – makes it all the more worrying.
Football writers love a crisis but after Chelsea and Arsenal’s defeats last night things are looking pretty desperate even though the season has only just got underway.
Particularly for the Gunners – bottom of their group after two games and with German heavyweights Bayern Munich up next.
Arsene Wenger blamed bad luck and Mourinho pointed to some “ridiculous” moments last night but there are clearly some longer term issues to address.
How can such a wealthy league be failing so spectacularly in Europe? Naivety, fatigue, complacency – take your pick – it seems nobody knows the real reason.
But it’s a pretty important question to answer. And this is why.
If England continues this trend, and Italian clubs continue to perform in Europe, the Premier League will lose its fourth Champions League place. And looking at the current state of the group stage tables not many could complain.