The parents of Madeleine McCann are more hopeful now, than ever before, that their daughter will be found.
In an interview with Mary Nightingale, to mark the fifth anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance, Kate and Gerry McCann say they've even visualised the reunion with their daughter.
Mary Nightingale has spoken to Kate and Gerry McCann five years after Madeleine's disappearance.
Kate and Gerry McCann have spoken to Mary Nightingale on the eve of the five-year anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.
Kate has described how she coped in April last year when Madeleine had been away from them longer than they had had her:
It had been a day that had been etched in my mind. But we've gone beyond that now. In the early days and weeks I was counting the days, counting the weeks and thinking my goodness what will she be like, how will she be - we've gone beyond that now.
Kate and Gerry McCann have spoken to Lorraine about the five years since Madeleine disappeared and how they try and have a regular family life. Kate also described how she tries not to imagine a reunion with her missing daughter.
Kate McCann has said that she finds it too difficult to imagine a reunion with Madeleine:
– Kate McCann
It's almost like it's so good it's so beautiful that I don't want to take myself there and it not to be real.
Obviously I've had a few dreams along the way and they have been so tangible that it has been incredibly painful, because that's what we want every day.
Kate and Gerry McCann have spoken to Lorraine Kelly five years after Madeleine went missing.
– Kate McCann
We're as positive as we have been in a long time.
We've reached that point where we can do a lot of normal things. We still have the Madeleine work going on day in day out that's inevitable until we find her.
You can't not have a normal family life.
Kate and Gerry McCann are expected to call on Portuguese authorities to reopen the case into their daughter's disappearance.
Madeleine went missing while on holiday with her family five years ago.
Daybreak's Richard Gaisford reports from the town of Praia Da Luz where Madeleine went missing. He says police there are reluctant to reopen the investigation.