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Ian Brady has been describing his life in prison and at high-security Ashworth Hospital, where he has been held for 28 years, to a mental health tribunal.
As he spoke publicly for the first time in nearly 50 years, he defended his perceived "paranoid" behaviour insisting he only took "sensible precautions" to protect himself from staff.
Brady also said Ashworth used to be a "decent and progressive" regime but now resembled a "penal warehouse".
He insisted he had "more freedom" in prison - when he spent time in Durham, Parkhurst and Wormwood Scrubs.
The 75-year-old claims he is no longer mentally ill and should be returned to prison to serve the remainder of his whole life sentence.
He will resume giving evidence after a break.
Asked why he wants to be sent back to the mainstream prison system, Ian Brady makes no mention of his hunger strike, and says:
"I'll never see the excellent conditions I experienced in Durham again, where I mixed with the Krays and the Great Train Robbers".
"Nor will I see the good conditions of Wormwood Scrubs in the 1970's. I was the barber there. I shaved the beards and cut the hair of the staff. Can you imagine that happening now?", he adds.
He says he'd "get on fine" with other prisoners. "I have contact with lots of prisoners in Scottish jails and jails abroad. I know what conditions are like there".
So far he had made absolutely no reference to being given the right to die. Rather, it all seems to be about his right to a comfortable life.
Ian Brady has told a panel at this mental health tribunal, "If you put anyone in a cage, pin labels on them, anti-social, aggressive, poke them with a stick, you will get a reaction".
Ian Brady has said the media and public are obsessed with his case because of it's "theatrical, dramatic background" and draws a comparison with Jack the Ripper.
Asked about his "paranoia" in hospital, only coming out at night, protecting himself with a pen, Ian Brady said:
Ian Brady is lucid and articulate as he talks about concerns that he's being bugged, or "earwigged" by staff at Ashworth Hospital.
He claims his medical notes were stolen and sold to a national newspaper in 1999.
Ian Brady has told his mental health tribunal he comes out of his room at night in Ashworth Hospital, and he "gets on fine" with nursing staff.
He claims he talks to them about an "eclectic" range of issues.
Brady says he "can't stand robotic people whether they are psychiatrists or just ordinary people. I prefer freewheeling conversation".
Ian Brady is now being asked about his hallucinations.
He says he memorised whole pages of Shakespeare and Plato, and recited them aloud as he walked around.
This is opportunistically seen as psychosis, he says... It's not, he claims, it's normal. "Who doesn't talk to themselves?".
Ian Brady is addressing his mental health tribunal in Manchester by video link. He is sitting in dark suit and sunglasses with nasal tube inserted.
He's telling the tribunal how he studied psychology in a secure wing of a mainstream prison.
He's speaking clearly and with lucidity in a well-spoken Scottish accent.
His arms are folded. He looks and sounds relaxed.
- Ian Brady last spoke at length in public when he gave evidence at his trial at Chester Assizes where he was eventually found guilty of three murders
- His legal team says he has a severe narcissistic personality disorder but is not mentally ill and could be treated in prison rather than hospital
- But Ashworth Hospital says Brady is still chronically mentally ill and remains a paranoid schizophrenic who needs around-the-clock care
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Moors murderer Ian Brady has been told he cannot be transferred to prison from the maximum security hospital where he is being held.
Yesterday, I said Ian Brady didn't strike me as having a "chilling or sinister" presence any more. I'm reviewing that opinion now.