Former NHS Trust director Roy Lilley has defended the NHS after a report found that health trusts in England are restricting operations they deem to be non-urgent.
Speaking to ITV 1's Daybreak Mr Lilley said that the NHS is in 'the middle of a perfect storm' - it has to save money as growth and demand is going up over 4% a year.
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