Ian Brady has told his mental health tribunal he comes out of his room at night in Ashworth Hospital, and he "gets on fine" with nursing staff.
He claims he talks to them about an "eclectic" range of issues.
Brady says he "can't stand robotic people whether they are psychiatrists or just ordinary people. I prefer freewheeling conversation".
Moors murderer Ian Brady has been told he cannot be transferred to prison from the maximum security hospital where he is being held.
Yesterday, I said Ian Brady didn't strike me as having a "chilling or sinister" presence any more. I'm reviewing that opinion now.
Moors murderer Ian Brady has spoken publicly for the first time in almost 50 years while giving evidence at his mental health tribunal.