Ian Brady is addressing his mental health tribunal in Manchester by video link. He is sitting in dark suit and sunglasses with nasal tube inserted.
He's telling the tribunal how he studied psychology in a secure wing of a mainstream prison.
He's speaking clearly and with lucidity in a well-spoken Scottish accent.
His arms are folded. He looks and sounds relaxed.
Moors murderer Ian Brady has been told he cannot be transferred to prison from the maximum security hospital where he is being held.
Yesterday, I said Ian Brady didn't strike me as having a "chilling or sinister" presence any more. I'm reviewing that opinion now.
Moors murderer Ian Brady has spoken publicly for the first time in almost 50 years while giving evidence at his mental health tribunal.