Like lampposts and pillar boxes, you hardly notice the church spires and towers that line any landscape in Wales. They're just there. They've always been there. Until they aren't.
And the reason they aren't is due to a financial balance rather than a crisis of faith. The Church in Wales estimates that just to keep all of its properties - from church halls to cathedrals - going will cost seventy million pounds over the next five years. That in the face of an on-off recession and with several other charities competing for cash.
In Old Colwyn, they had to make some hard choices. St Catherine's - the traditionally Welsh church - is maybe less than half a mile from St John's. Congregations dwindled. One of them had to close: loyalties were hurt as part of the process. St John's is a magnificent turn of the last century building; St Catherine's is shuttered up. It still costs a thousand pounds a week to run the parish.
Chris Potter, one of St Asaph's Archdeacons, makes the point - many people's relationship with church is an occasional thing. It's maybe there for the big things in life; the christenings - the marriages - the bits of joy and grief. When crises happen that rip through a community, like the Prestatyn fire deaths or the disappearance of April Jones in Machynlleth, the focus shifts to that large building in town with a spire or a tower where people who can't find the words can at least light a candle and show each other how moved they are.
The church is there and it has always been there. It isn't just shown in bricks and mortar - but if people want the doors to stay open and the light to come through the stained glass windows, rather than having them covered over with protective shutters - then somehow, they have to help the church find the money they need over the next five years....