Helen Mary Jones has been one of the most familiar faces in Welsh politics since she became one of the first Assembly Members. And as one of Plaid Cymru's most senior figures, she's been at the centre of many of the party's highs and lows.
In tonight's Face to Face she talks openly about those times, including Plaid's 2003 leadership crisis when she was among those accused of plotting against Ieuan Wyn Jones, accusations she still finds painful.
At the time, that was upsetting because it's so much not the way that ... I live my life, it's not the way that I do politics.
We look back too at the background and values that made her the person and politician she is today: her upbringing in Essex,the strong sense of a Welsh identity passed on from her father and the radical politics which led her to join Plaid Cymru and eventually become the AM for Llanelli.
Now party chair, Helen Mary Jones remains in an influential position within Plaid but I wondered if she misses being an AM and if she's planning on standing again. Her name has been mentioned as one of those who might be interested in standing in Carmarthen East and Dinefwr when its AM Rhodri Glyn Thomas stands down in 2016. But, as you'll see in the clip below, although she is considering standing again, she only has eyes for Llanelli.
You can see Face to Face tonight at 1145pm on ITV Cymru Wales.