Judges from the Court of Appeal have been hearing the case of a Cardiff man who was found guilty of one of the city's most notorious murders.
The court is considering the case of John Pope, who was found guilty of the murder of Karen Skipper.
Her body was found in the River Ely in 1996.
Carl Edwards reports.
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