It's been a wet year - but all that water looks like it has done some good for Christmas trees.
One west Wales farm, which has a quarter of a million of trees, says the weather means the pines are brimming with sap and that means the needles won't be falling off - at least not before Christmas!
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Crowds came to hear him speak this afternoon in Bangor - a seat where fewer than 100 votes could make the difference at the next election.
Scattered showers with the odd heavy burst possible but there will be plenty of sunny spells too.
A rather wet and windy evening, with rain in the north and showers elsewhere.