The second defendant charged with the murder of Cardiff teenager Aamir Siddiqi and the attempted murder of his parents has denied having anything to do with the incident.
Asked by his defence barrister if he was 'involved in any way' in killing Aamir or attacking his parents, Ben Hope both times replied 'No, I wasn't.'
Mr Hope claimed the other defendant Jason Richards told him that he may have murdered someone. Mr Hope said: 'he said 'I might have killed somebody or words to that effect'.' His barrister asked 'did you believe him?' He replied 'no, he's a bit of a fantastist.' The trial continues.