You are both dangerous men and you may never be released. If you die in jail few would shed a tear and many would say it would be no more than you deserve'
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One-year-old sheepdog Nell was stolen from a farm on the outskirts of Dolgellau.
Police are investigating an allegation that a young child was approached by a stranger in Llanelli.
An unsettled few days are in store, with rain and wind expected.