Today two councils on different sides of the social spectrum have both been found to be failing their children.
Merthyr Tydil - an economically challenged area - and Monmouthshire - a more affluent part of the country - have both been recommended by the schools inspectorate Estyn to have immediate intervention for their education services.
Monmouthshire's education performance, given the low level of deprivation, was found to be "well below average" when compared to similar schools.
The number of pupils excluded from school is 'too high'. The authority does not support and challenge schools enough. Their prospect for improvement is considered 'unsatisfactory'.
In Merthyr Tydfil, at every stage, standards for pupils are "unsatisfactory." Exclusions are "too high", "too many" young people are not in education, employment or training and attendance at primary schools is "unacceptably low."
The council has not challenged underperformance and it has not responded well enough to past inspections dating back to 2004. This is also not expected to improve.