The mother accused of starting a fire that killed five people in Prestatyn says she wouldn't have it in her, and would never have wished harm on her neighbour's baby boy.
Melanie Smith is charged with the murder of Lee-Anna Shiers and Liam Timbrell, who lived above her, and three children.
Smith took the stand this afternoon to deny killing them by deliberately setting their flat on fire.
The defendant started crying in the witness box when she described the fire, saying she was "hysterical" and worried about the safety of her boyfriend, and others in the burning property.
During her evidence she denied being drunk on the night of the fire, and denies all charges. The court heard when interviewed by police she told them:
I am not an arsonist and I am definitely not a murderer. I definitely did not start the fire in the flat. Give me a lie detector test. I will pass everything.
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