It's day three of the National Eisteddfod near Denbigh. The First Minister is facing calls to do more to make it easier for people to use Welsh every day.
"It's important to show that what we're talking about is people's lives, people's healthcare, social care... people looking to having leisure services, children, young people being able to have opportunities to use Welsh outside of school" says Sian Howys from Cymdeithas Yr Iaith.
"These are the things that are going to make a real difference in terms of the future of the language but also in terms of just us wanting to use the language every day in ordinary situations."
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