Farming unions say their members are getting a bad deal as the Welsh Government warned today that farmers must learn to manage with less help from the taxpayer.
Alun Davies, the minister responsible for agriculture, was spelling out why he's making bigger cuts in farm subsidies than anywhere else in the United Kingdom.
Mr Davies said he's transferring as much money as possible into projects to make farming more efficient, more environmentally friendly and better able to cope when subsidies are cut again in future.
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