Shadow Middle East minister Ian Lucas speaks about conditions for Syrian refugees in Lebanon. The Wrexham MP has just returned from a trip to see the refugee camps for himself.
In this interview for Sharp End, he tells Adrian Masters what he heard and saw about the difficulties people fleeing from the fighting in Syria are still experiencing.
Adrian Masters and Owain Phillips present Monday's programme from the Liberal Democrat Conference in Glasgow - and the studio in Cardiff.
Adrian Masters and Owain Phillips present Monday's programme from Birmingham and Cardiff.
Political Editor Adrian Masters was joined in the studio by assembly members Bethan Jenkins, Mick Antoniw and Suzy Davies.