This is Unscripted - a podcast brought to you by ITV News Arts Editor Nina Nannar. In each episode, Nina speaks to a leading name from the world of arts and entertainment.
Her guests talk about their life and work, plus Nina asks them where they see themselves in five years.
On Unscripted this week, Nina is joined by author and former children's laureate Malorie Blackman, creator of the hit series Noughts and Crosses.
After 20 years, Malorie talks about the series coming to an end with the final novel, Endgame.
She tells Nina what's changed in the discussion about race in that time, but how there remains a lot to change "in terms of understanding and living together in peace."
The pair chat about supporting young people as we emerge from the pandemic, and never underestimating the age group.
And Malorie explains why Stormzy may just get a mention in her autobiography.
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