A campaign group in Kendal is calling for the speed limit to be lowered to 20 miles per hour on all the town's roads.
They claim it would reduce accidents, make it easier for children and the elderly to cross roads and ultimately save money, but not everyone agrees.
This could cost £150,000 at a when the council needs to save money. But the campaigners say it's money well spent if it saves a life.
The county council will consider it, if they persuade others to back them in the ongoing consultation.
The Black family has lived in Kendal for 9 years. Nancy, who's 9-years old, Ewan, who's 6-years old and their father Rory Black cross two roads on their way to school.
Both Aynam Road (A65) and Kirkland/Highgate (A6), are A-roads with a speed limit of 30mph, which is part of why Mr. Black wants the speed limit to be lowered to 20mph.
In Nancy's class at Ghyllside Primary School, they've been learning about her father's campaign as part of their work looking at road safety.
The school, like many in Kendal, has decided to support the campaign to reduce urban speed limits to 20mph.
So what are the arguments for and against a blanket 20mph limit across Kendal?
- It would be safer: reaction times, stopping times and the likelihood of serious injury or death in the event of a crash would be reduced. At 20mph stopping distance is 40ft as opposed to 75ft at 30mph.
- It would make it easier for slower pedestrians to cross roads for instance children, those with disabilities and older people.
- It would be better for the environment as we'd use less fuel.
- There is very little difference in journey times between driving at 20mph and driving at 30mph
- Although it would cost £100,000-£150,000, other areas such as Birmingham have shown it actually saves money as accidents are reduced.
- Kendal's one-way system is often congested, giving rise to rat-runs through housing estates.
- Having different zones is confusing. A consistent 20mph limit would be easier to stick to.
- There could be a more even traffic flow and speed bumps could be removed.
But the idea of reducing the speed limit hasn't gone down well with some motorists, particularly those who need to make their living by it.
The arguments against from taxi drivers and others that ITV Border spoke to argue:
- It would increase journey times. This could impact businesses as well care workers who already are already trying to juggle increasing caseloads.
- It could slow traffic flow and could cost more in traffic enforcement.
- Bus timetables may have to change.
- It's unnecessary: it's almost impossible to drive at 30mph through Kendal during the day as all the roundabouts, traffic lights, narrow bridges and pedestrian crossings are effectively traffic-calming devices. This would therefore be a waste of money.
- Safety concerns posed by the volume of traffic could be alleviated by the campaign to build a bypass, called a 'northern link road'.
- There are already 20mph zones near schools and through many of the housing estates used as rat runs.
- There is nothing stopping people driving at 20mph now if they want to. If all the campaigners drove at 20mph it would slow the traffic around them so you wouldn't need to spend the money.
- Drivers would be less safe if they are constantly watching their speedometer instead of keeping their eyes on the road.
ITV Border put these arguments to the test by asking two drivers to drive a 2.75-mile route through the centre of Kendal from the Westmorland General Hospital to an industrial estate at Mint Bridge.
The first driver, Ray, aimed to stick to the 30mph speed limit, while the other driver, David, kept to a maximum of 20mph.
There are 20 obstacles along the way: 3 roundabouts and 17 traffic lights or pedestrian crossings.
Here are the results for Ray's Taxi (30mph):
- Top Speed: 29.3mph
- Average Speed: 13mph
- Total Time: 13 minutes and 9 seconds
And for David's Taxi (20mph):
- Top Speed: 24.4mph
- Average speed: 12mph
- Total Time: 14'15"
This shows that driving at 20mph was just one minute slower than driving at 30mph, busting the perception that it would dramatically increase journey times.
However, it also showed that for much of the journey it was difficult for either car to reach even 20mph, reinforcing the opposite argument that it may be unnecessary to enforce a 20mph limit.
Kendal Town council has set up a working group to look into the arguments and has opened a public consultation to find out what local people think.
Cumbria County Council says it will consider the result of this consultation and Cumbria Police says it's duty is to enforce whatever is decided.
A county council spokesperson said: