There's anger from businesses about how plans for the Northern Powerhouse are stalling at the starting gate.
When it comes to public transport for example you can get from Manchester to London in 2 hours eight minutes.
But if you want to get from Manchester to some of our most important scientific businesses near Ellesmere Port, a journey of just 35 miles, it can take almost two and a half hours. And that's not the only journey across the North West that can seem to go on forever.
Business leaders say they've been let down by the Government - which has cancelled plans to electrify some our trains.
Our political correspondent Daniel Hewitt set off on a voyage of discovery.