We are talking about vulnerable people, we are talking about a lack of governance, we are talking about a lack of anybody trying to raise concerns. We don't know if there was anybody trying to raise concerns. Medication errors, the board not doing their job, the inspectorate of Wales not doing their job and on and on it goes. It is very clearly linked to the same problems that they had at Mid-Staffs.
Straight away we have had comments from the political leaders that this isn't another Mid-Staffs, we haven't got a problem in Wales, instead of acting and looking to see if there is a problem they've denied
Wales' First Minister rejects accusations of a "whitewash" and says it is time to correct what has gone wrong.
There's no getting away from the fact that there's an enormous amount of work to be done by the local health board in order to regain people's confidence in that part of the hospital. I don't think it's a whitewash at all. I think it lays very much bare the issues that are there and the issues that will need to be resolved.