I'm looking at a route map planner.
If I want to go from Cardiff to Bangor today, by train, the quickest trip is 3 hours and 57 minutes. How about car? 4 hours and 28 minutes for a distance of 180 miles. By car from Cardiff to Leeds would be quicker at 4 hours and 13 minutes. The distance? 227 miles. It is not quick travelling through Wales.
None of this will come as a surprise to those who regularly commute across our country.
Dave Lee has been cabbing around Caernarfon for over 30 years. He's seen the build up of cars on the road.
"It's gridlocked" he says as he takes me for a ride around the town on a Thursday afternoon. He says his firm gets more business because of poor public transport.
80% of us in Wales travel to and from work by car but our roads are getting more congested. Welsh drivers spend on average 17 peak hours sitting in traffic jams.
Now we're being encouraged to get out car and onto an alternative.
New cycle lanes are being installed. In the south east, a Metro system -integrating different forms of public transport - is promised.
Abertillery is one area set to benefit from the Metro, and despite a lot of publicity surrounding it, very few people we spoke to in the area knew what it was.
James Prince from Transport for Wales, responsible for delivering the Metro, believes that will change.
What about the rest of Wales?
In some areas, particularly rural ones, the bus is vital but figures show routes being cut and the number of trips falling over a decade.
Transport Secretary Ken Skates says the cause of the problem has been bus deregulation in the 1990s. He says the Welsh Government will introduce new legislation to try and address the problems.
On this evening's Wales at Six we're going to take a look at our transport system and ask how can it be improved.
Watch Rob Osborne's report: