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    Sat 24 Sep 2016
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    10.20pm - 11.25pm
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    Week 39 2016 : Sat 24 Sep - Fri 30 Sep
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    Tue 20 Sep 2016
DAVINA MCCALL speaks to Jonathan about rumours of her hosting the Great British Bake Off and opens up about family life. She also opens up about her relationship with her late mother
JAMIE DORNAN speaks about Fifty Shades nude scenes and why he doesn’t like his looks
ROB BECKETT speaks about being a new dad
STRANGER THINGS CAST speak about being a part of the biggest TV series right now 
Zara Larsson performs
On this week’s episode of The Jonathan Ross Show, Jonathan speaks to broadcaster, Davina McCall; actor and star of The Fall and 50 Shades of Grey, Jamie Dornan; comedian Rob Beckett and the cast of Netflix phenomenon, Stranger Things, Millie Bobby Brown, Gaten Matarazzo and Caleb McLaughlin. Zara Larsson also performs.
TV broadcaster and personality, Davina McCall, joined the sofa and spoke about presenting The Great British Bake Off and the lessons she has learnt, including about family and her mother.
Speaking to Jonathan about rumours that she has been approached to host The Great British Bake Off when it moves to Channel 4, Davina said: “I have not been approached and I have to say that would be tough wouldn’t it, after Mel and Sue, because they were amazing.”
On whether she would take the role if offered, Davina said: “I haven’t really thought about it, I love the show but it’s cakes and I’m sugar free really. I love watching it and I think ‘Ooh I could make a sugar free version of that.’ [But] you’ve got to try them haven’t you.”
When Jonathan asked, “So on a sugar level you’d have to say no?” although she doesn’t rule it out, Davina replied, “I think I’d I’d probably have to.”
On whether it might be a poisoned chalice offer, Davina said: “A little bit, [I promote] healthy eating but [on the show] I’m just going to have a little bit of this cake.”
Davina - who hosts celebrity reality show, The Jump - spoke about controversies from the past series which include the celebrity contestants suffering serious injuries as a result of the skiing competition. Davina said of it returning: “I was amazed because I didn’t think we’d be able to get people back on it but apparently people still want to do the show which is great. They’re amazing.”
On whether she ever worries someone could seriously injure themselves on it, she said: “Obviously and if you think of anybody going away on a ski holiday for a week your chances of getting injured on that holiday are extremely high but these guys are out there for two months, skiing all day every day and then doing crazy things like The Skeleton. They’re really dangerous... And a jump obviously. They are trained… Accidents happen… They all have an amazing time, the camaraderie is fantastic, everybody hangs out together all the time, they are learning to do extraordinary things, and the thrill I think that they get from it... I’m not on skis, I’m not allowed. They can’t have the presenter on crutches.”
“It was a bit like Don’t Try This at Home. I really worried about that as well...  All I can say is that they’re given the best care and they are taught by the best teachers and love bombed for the entire time they’re there. And they’re willing, they want to do it, we’re not forcing them out there.”
On her time hosting Big Brother when it was on Channel 4, Davina recalled an infamous moment - involving a housemate performing a sexual act with a wine bottle - when she questioned whether perhaps reality television had gone too far: “There was one time and I’m sure lots of people will remember it which was… it was Kinga. I remember watching Kinga in the garden with a bottle. We never actually saw it - today you’d probably see it - but we never saw it, it was alluded to and I called and I said, ‘Have we stepped over the mark here? Is this a step too far?’ and they said, ‘Look that’s all the housemates have talked about the next day so we had to allude to it’ and I was like ‘Oh man’ because I was thinking about her, she’s going to come out afterwards and that’s all anybody’s going to remember. They have responsibility to these people, you’ve got to look after them.” 
Davina has just released a book about the life lessons she has learnt. She cited family as the most important thing in life and said: “I would say that family is everything and I do say in the book that keep those you love close but family doesn’t have to mean blood relatives it can mean a really close group of friends.”
Davina opened up about her difficult relationship with her mother: “It was really complicated… I had such an odd relationship with my mother and I really hope that this book goes a certain way to help people understand it because I loved her, she was the most exciting, beautiful, glamorous, amazing woman but she was also an alcoholic and an addict. She was really confusing and also very exciting but I never quite knew how to behave around her. She was incapable of mothering so I was always trying to get her to do motherly things but it never quite happened and it left me yearning for more all the time. I was so confused, I didn’t know how to be around her but I worshipped her and I know she loved me too but not in a conventional way.”
She continued: “I went out to visit her in the holidays and I think I was like a plaything but there wasn’t a traditional nurture or ‘I care what happens to you’ or ’I would care if you got lost’... She didn’t have those traditional worries that a parent would have for their child but at the same time she was quite mad. Other people would think she was great fun like, there’s a story in a blue fake fur coat down to the floor and a pair of high heels and she was naked underneath and I’m in the bar with her and she’s just flashing people and other people thought she was hysterical but obviously it’s my mother… [I was] not even a teenager. It is terrible. But other people would look at her and go ‘Oh my God she’s wild, she’s beautiful, she’s naked under the coat…’ But also she didn’t tell me, there weren’t any boundaries so she didn’t tell me what to wear… At home with my granny [who brought me up] there were boundaries. I had to come in at a certain time, I wasn’t allowed to wear makeup, I wasn’t allowed to wear high heels... She gave me the roots.”
Davina spoke about her decision not to see her mother before she passed away: “It was big - and it was one I really agonised over. So she was in South Africa so geographically it was a flight, it wasn’t get in the car and just go and say goodbye. Friends of mine were saying, ‘Do you think you might want to go and make peace?’ and I said, ‘I tried to make peace my entire life.’ We’d basically been estranged from when I was about 30 through to when she died so about 12 years and I said I’ve tried to make peace year after year after year and either she’s sold a story or she just asks for money and I just kept thinking to myself, ‘Are you fooling yourself? Are you kidding yourself? And I thought, I don’t want to go, I don’t want to go all the way and go and say goodbye. I had one moment where I lay in bed and I think it was a few days before she died. I knew she was very sick and I just lay there and I just said, ‘I forgive you’ in my head and I just felt like that was enough. I came to a point when I forgave her. I think she knew that I always loved her because I kept trying to go to her for something and then when she did pass away, I was with my sister and we both hugged each other and I looked at her and I said, ‘How do you feel?’ and she said, ‘I feel OK’ and I said, ‘I feel OK’ and I said, ‘Isn’t that awful.’ It would be awful to leave this world and for your children to not feel like a massive upheaval when you go.”
“[My mother] didn’t feel that she needed any forgiveness… She was quite narcissistic so when she told a story like the blue fur coat story she told [my husband] Matthew that story and she told it as if it was just hysterical, so she just didn’t get that it would be difficult.”
Opening up about her relationship with her husband, Davina said he prefers to stay away from the idea of celebrity: “My husband though, it’s hilarious. He’s not going to read the book, he’s definitely not going to watch tonight. He loves me, he’s really attentive and really loving but he’s just not into showbiz. He couldn’t name you one Kardashian. He doesn’t care about it.”
And admitting the pair have had marriage guidance in the past, she said: “We have had… He wasn’t like, ‘Yay let’s go to marriage guidance’... I sat down with him [before I wrote the book] and I said if I do talk about it, it might help another couple… We say it was really great for us, so then it might help somebody else.”
On the problems they needed to overcome, she said: “We had the same row. It might have been about different things but it would be about the same thing and it would get to the same point and I thought, ‘We’re never going to get past this particular row…’ People have sticking blocks in their relationship and they get stuck at the same point… It worked brilliantly.”
Actor and model, Jamie Dornan, who is best known for his role as Christian Grey in the Fifty Shades films, joined the sofa and spoke about disagreeing with his looks and his nude scenes.
Speaking about his looks, the handsome actor admitted: “I hate my face without a beard, I swear to God I really hate it… I always think I look really young… I think when I’m clean shaven, I look like a thumb… My own ‘Jamie Resting Face’ is what I have an issue with.”
On his part in popular BBC drama, The Fall, Jamie revealed he originally auditioned for a small part which featured in the first two episodes but he ended up getting the main role of Paul Spector: “I auditioned for Olsen who dies in the second episode of the first series. I auditioned for the good guy, for the police officer… Usually it happens the other way around you go in for one of the jazzier parts in the production and you think it goes relatively well and they say, ‘They loved you but they’re going to bring you back in [to read the part] for the postman…’ he laughed. 
And on it being the much anticipated final series, he said: “We’re billing this as the final series but there may be a world where it comes back in some incarnation with whoever else at a certain time but for now this is it which is very sad.”
On playing Mr Grey in the saucy films, Jamie said he is proud of being part of such huge movies. When Davina asked how his wife feels about him playing such a sexy character with so many nude scenes, he said: “My wife is one of the most brilliant human beings in the world. She hasn’t watched it. Why would she watch it? She wouldn’t put herself through that.”
Jonathan asked Jamie if he appears completely naked in the next film or if he has filmed scenes completely naked. Jamie said: “I haven’t seen it so I don’t know… I don’t even know. I don’t know where the cameras were, I don’t bother myself with that, I just get on with it. At times you are…” And on how he feels filming naked, he said “I don’t really care about that sort of stuff. I’m not nudist beach guy but I don’t really mind.” 
Comedian and TV personality, Rob Beckett, joined the sofa and spoke about the joys of being a new father.
On his nine month old daughter, the toothy comedian joked: “I don’t think I should be in charge of a kid. I don’t think i’m responsible enough… I feel a bit sorry for her at the moment, she’s teething. I feel sorry for her because I’m blessed when it comes to the ivories and they’re like tombstones growing out of her nut, poor thing. She’s in agony and I’ve got to [admit] it’s my fault, it’s all my genes.”
He added: “She’s posh, my kid. My kid is more posh than me. My kid is on avocado on toast. She’s nine months old. I didn’t seen an avocado until I was 27. I’m a bit worried that she’s not going to want to know, what if she doesn’t like waffles? Potato smiley faces? Alphabetti spaghetti?”
The cast of the cult new series, Stranger Things, Gaten Matarazzo, Caleb McLaughlin and Millie Bobby Brown joined the sofa and spoke about being a part of the biggest new TV show to appear on Netflix.
Speaking about his new fans, Gaten said: “There is somebody that actually tattooed me on their arm, two instances that I know of. It’s really weird. I love that they support my character and support me and stuff but don’t brand me on your body, don’t do that, it’s not healthy!”
On shaving her hair off for the role, actress Millie Bobby Brown said: “I was very excited. When I first found out I was like, ‘OK, that’s negotiable, we can negotiate some things’ and then they were like, ‘No it’s not’...It was one day when we were all in school and Caleb goes in first to get his hair styled, Gaten goes… I’m the last one. I go in and it all just all goes off and I come into lunch, it took about 2 hours, and the boys didn’t actually recognise me when I came into lunch.”
On being mistaken for a boy, she said: “It has happened to me so much, my alter ego his name is John” she laughed, admitting she has introduced herself as John in the past so as not to correct elderly people in the supermarket.
Gaten also spoke about a health condition which he says has been written in to be a part of his role on Stranger Things: “Now it’s called Cleidocranial dysplasia and it’s a condition where you’re born without your collar bones. I don’t have any. It affects your facial growth, your skull growth, it affects your teeth so that’s why I don’t have any, these are fake here, I have some but they’re all baby teeth. I need a lot of surgery. I have a really mild case and a lot of people have it much worst than I do and I feel like the [programme makers] putting it into the show is really raising awareness of it… A lot of people shy away from it because a lot of people look different than other people and I’m lucky that mine was really mild… It is usually passed down through genes, it wasn’t for me, it just happened so now it’s in my genes I have a 50 % chance of passing it down in my genes and it could be much worst for them but I just want to raise awareness for it and let people know it’s not something they should be afraid of showing.”
The kids and fellow guests all played a game called ‘There Were Stranger Things in the 80s’ where the kids had to guess popular items from the 80s.