How do you solve a problem like Andrew and Fergie?

On Talking Royals this week, our Royal Editor Chris Ship, Producer Lizzie Robinson and The Telegraph's Royal Correspondent India McTaggart join Charlene White to discuss how the royal household is dealing with Fergie after she was dropped by seven charities over alleged Epstein emails


Once again this week, the House of York has been making the headlines for the wrong reasons.

This time it was Sarah, the Duchess of York, who was accused of sending emails to Jeffrey Epstein, who – after his conviction as a sex offender – Fergie called her “supreme friend” in an email.

The revelations were followed by seven of her charities dropping her as patron in a single day, some saying it was not appropriate for them to retain links with the Duchess.

Her office said Sarah was trying to protect her family from a man they called "threatening".

But it’s yet another headache for King Charles, and Prince William, who – as future King – will need to decide what to do about Prince Andrew and Fergie living in their Royal Lodge house on the Windsor estate.

The Duke of York rents the house from the Crown Estate, and despite his brother turning off the financial taps, Andrew has still been able to pay the bills.

There have also been reports this week that Prince Harry wants to have the half-in, half-out role within the Royal Family, which the late Queen rejected when Harry and Meghan wanted out.

Prince Harry is keen to see more of his father. Credit: PA

Following Harry’s 50-minute meeting with his father when he was in London recently, several newspapers have been running stories that the Duke of Sussex wants to help with the royal workload.

The truth is, he doesn’t.

A senior Sussex source described to me the reasons why Harry wouldn’t want to come back to the UK in that capacity.

Ask yourself this question: would Harry want to swap his life in California, surfing and picking his kids up from school, for picking up some of the UK work his brother (who Harry doesn’t speak to) doesn’t want to do himself?

It’s not hard to come to a quick answer!

But what we do know is that Harry wants to see his father more often, and there has been a shift in his approach to his home country.

He knows he must rebuild some bridges and now wants to reconnect with the UK, despite leaving it for the west coast of America (via Canada) in 2020.

Talking of Prince William, he and the Princess of Wales carried out a very moving visit to Southport this week where they met, away from the cameras, the parents of the three girls, Alice, Elsie Dot and Bebe, who were killed in the attack last summer.

They saw a new playground at the school where two of the girls were pupils and spoke to their former classmates about how they have been dealing with the trauma of losing their friends.

Their conversation with William and Kate is worth a watch and for those of us at the school on Tuesday, it was humbling to meet the parents who have faced the last year with such bravery and fortitude.

“We will always be here to support you,” Prince William said in a speech to the children and families in the new playground at Churchtown Primary school, which honours both Alice and Bebe.

Prince William travelled to Balmoral after the visit to see King Charles.


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We also had a really interesting chat with one of our royal colleagues at the Telegraph, India McTaggart, who found herself in the surprising position this week of modelling one of the King’s dresses on the catwalk at London Fashion Week.

The dress was designed by Vin + Omi, who have been working with King Charles since 2019, making items from waste products from the King’s estates.

Her dress was made from a woody shrub called red-barked dogwood, which was growing at Sandringham.

As our guest on this week’s Talking Royals podcast, it’s well worth a listen to India talking about what it was like to appear on the runway and how other clothing garments have been made out of Sandringham’s milk cartons. Yes, milk cartons!

It gave us an excuse to re-watch the footage of the late queen on the front row (or ‘frow’, as Charlene calls it) in 2018.

Queen Elizabeth was sitting next to the queen of fashion, Anna Wintour, the former editor of Vogue.

And no, she didn’t take off those famous sunglasses. Not even for Britain’s longest-reigning monarch!


This is the Talking Royals - our weekly podcast about the royal family, with ITV News Royal Editor Chris Ship and Producer Lizzie Robinson